The Huddle - Episode 188. Enhancing Efficiency Through Team Collaboration

Great installs don’t happen in isolation, they happen through teamwork.

This week on The Huddle, Daniel and Jose take the mic for a real-world conversation about how team collaboration directly impacts efficiency on the jobsite and in business. From communication breakdowns to strong workflows, they break down what separates chaotic projects from smooth ones — and how better teamwork leads to better results.

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• Why collaboration is the foundation of efficient jobsites

• Common team breakdowns that slow projects down

• How better communication improves quality and profitability

• Practical ways to strengthen teamwork across crews and leadership

• Lessons learned from jobs where collaboration made all the difference

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What's up everybody? Uh, welcome to the huddle. As Paul would say, it's your weekly playbook for finding success in

your flooring career. And then he always has something sweet to say like

we're here to set you up something. I don't know. Maybe look like I'll be

either either way. What we're here for is just to talk to you guys and

learn just as much from you as we're trying to put out there. Got to bring you information. Sometimes

we have experts on on the podcast. Sometimes it's just us. And uh we appreciate everybody for for the

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and uh Diversion Adhesives. And uh uh hold tight while we have the little

cameo.

Oh, you know what we should do? I should have asked Sunny for that video that he has doing the with the AI thing and that

could just be should too. That would be sweet.

That was uh that was me just improvising everyone with uh with Mr. uh Divergent right here.

Uh today's episode, what was the exact topic there Mr. Daniel? enhancing

potency through teamwork.

What's up, Jesus? What's up, brother? Through team collaboration.

As a matter of fact, we have some of that going on right now. um

uh part of uh part of our team um like the other half that's not on this side of the screen decided that we were going

to implement a new CRM like the week we were before going to ties and then then

we missed the whole week everything yeah and um it's okay it's okay

once it's all together it's going to work out just fine um but we definitely

something we had to do. Talked about it for a couple years. It was overdue. Yeah. Well, it seems to be the going

thing with with with us is we wait until we don't have a choice um for most

things, I guess. But I mean,

it it's I don't know. I like it so far. I know you haven't used it as as much as me, but you used it before when it was

brand new when they were uh testing everything out, right? Well, there was a lot of bugs at

the beginning and it it deterred deterred us, right? Um deterred me

because we wanted it to work flawlessly, but you know, it's one of those uh

now that I have a better understanding of software and the idea that it's always underdevelopment.

Um it's a lot easier to collaborate even with people who aren't your in-house

team. Yeah, it's funny that that's the topic and that's what we're doing right now with everything. Um,

just trying to work more closely together, right? And that's the thing. It's it teamwork is one of those things

where um Oh, we do have over here we have Mr.

Champ Jimothy saying what's up on Instagram. floor guy Roy

inside the business or on the job teamwork he asked. And I think it's kind

of both because regardless of of what teamwork you're talking about, it's always a

struggle. Well, let's uh let's break that down a little bit. Inside the business or what

was the other one he said? So inside the business, which I think he means maybe just uh like the office work

portion of things or on the job team work and Okay. On the job. Yeah.

That the thing is is we try and tie everything together, right? So anything that we're doing in here like we try

like every Monday morning we have a meeting and we go through every single project that we're we did last week and

every single project that we're doing this week. So, it's like, what did we do last week? How'd it go? How can we be

better? What are we doing this week? So, that way everyone has a heads up on what's going on.

Yeah, we try to do all of that. And and I guess that starts with uh the the inside the business aspect, right? The

um you know, and we're we're a little bit smaller. We don't have that many people to communicate with like a lot a

lot of the larger companies. And and I don't want to say just in flooring. I'm I'm saying um businesses period. Um, and

uh, we ended up flocking to Microsoft uh, and and the teams aspect of

Microsoft and using that to kind of help with internal communication and trying to be on the same page. Um,

definitely Daniel flocked to the technology part. I tried to stay away as long as possible,

but it was inevitable. It doesn't doesn't work when I'm I'm your business partner.

Yeah. No, it well it it doesn't work if you have a business partner that understands. Uh well, let's start with

this. For those of you guys out there who are partnered up with someone and someone's a little bit younger than you,

so I'm 45, Daniel's only six years younger than I am. Y'all can do the math.

the difference that the six years makes from the education portion right from me

when I was in school to when he was in school was is like there was a big leap in there that I was not a part of. So,

uh, for for me adopting technology when I was learning all the hands-on and how to do it on paper was very very hard.

Um, and still is sometimes. Um, but it was second nature to him. Like when he, you know, he enrolled in college for a

little bit for was it computer programming? Uh, computer science. Computer science, right? Like, dude,

when I went to school, we took like our robotics class was playing with a a

board that looked like the game Operation, you know what I mean? Like, we were learning how to solder simple

circuits, right? That the thing is that's still relevant today. It's just everything is ran

by another computer, right? It's ran by something smarter than what was there

before. It was like even even all the STEM classes and stuff that they have today is um my daughter comes home and

she's like, "Oh, we had STEM today. We were working on programming." And I was

like, "Oh yeah, you can program our stuff uh one of these days." And she was like, "I hate it. I hate writing code."

You know what? That's crazy for me to hear that your daughter's doing that, right? Like

going back to what I was saying, when I was in school, I I took keyboarding, right? That was supposed to be like for

computers, it was typing class. That's it. Typing. And you know what I'm

starting to see now, Daniel, is I'm starting to see that people uh my my kids Yeah. They don't know how to type.

They don't know how to type anymore because everything's touchscreen now, right? Or voice to text. So it's like so

there's going to be another void there where there's going to be people typing the way I used to type like this.

Um which gets us back to the inside the biz part is is adopting systems that are more efficient than a pencil and paper.

Adopting technology, adopting, you know, it doesn't always be technology, but just adopting a a a

faster, more precise method. uh a method that

you can go back and reference. I didn't have all of that. I remember, you know,

when I was I don't even know how long ago was 20 years ago when

I was using the same template, like the same actual template to do invoices, like an Excel template, the one that I

put together. And that's Yep. We we didn't even know what formulas were. So, we were just

putting everything in there and still having to use a calculator. It was Yeah. And I I was telling like the

people I was doing work for, I was like, "Hey, man. Can I just Can I just email this to you instead of faxing it? I

don't have a fax." No, we have to have fax. We have to have fax. I'm like, I remember telling Daniel said, "Dude,

we're going to start using email for all this. I don't know why we're still faxing, but I get the official docs."

Um, but the government still wants facts anyways. Yeah, I guess

why we have to keep it. Well, uh, getting back to that is is

getting on the same page and understanding that if you can duplicate it,

you're going to become more efficient. You can teach someone else how to do it a lot easier. And that's where we fell behind in the beginning. So, I don't we

we did work as a team, but we weren't very efficient as a team. Um, right.

What Daniel knows is what he knows. What I knew is what I what I knew. And we still have to collaborate and say, "Hey,

this is where I'm at on paper." Um, how long ago did we implement teams? Been

over five years now. Uh, this is year number four.

Oh, that's it. This is year number five. Is it? Okay. So, I will say that I did dive right in

and um I was forced to learn how to do things and then I started and with

Daniel's help obviously in creating like our own CRM and and communication through there. Then Daniel learned how

to do something else or or they added more technology, more capabilities. Basically what ends up happening is I I

gravitate to the new stuff and then learn how to use it a little bit and be like, "Hey, we should be using this."

And then I make him use it and then I'm like, "All right, you got that." That's it's a handoff. But that is but

isn't that what it's all about, right? Like the um that's what the teamwork aspect is

about, right? You want to be able to get something to a certain point and hand it off to make your job easier. Otherwise,

what are we doing it for? Um, and that goes for the installation, too. Like

when Daniel started working with me, he didn't know that much. He didn't know anything, right? But at some point, I was able to hand stuff off. Same thing

with baby sister. We were able to hand stuff off. And we're talking about the installation portion. Um, and it goes,

it's the same thing for uh the office side, the clerical side of

it, the business side of it. Um, it's all the business side, but the paperwork side, the side that I used to say was,

"Oh, you just sit at a desk all day. Oh, are you tired?"

No, but like um I know we talk about go care. We talked about Go Carrera pretty

extensively right now. we're we're moving over to trade tap and that's where

um a lot of this stuff can can happen is

you know storing um the documents and stuff you need in the different jobs and

and whatnot like we use Microsoft Teams for that and it was it took a while to

to get used to and we're still getting used to it and we're still trying to get employees to get used to it. Um,

but it's going from

emailing or texting or that to being like, "All right, put it

in Teams." And I say this all the time, like, "Someone texts me. Why are you

texting me? Put it in Teams." That way everything is tracked in its respective

project, right? That way if there's any ever any question you go back like oh

this is what the team was doing on this day this is when they asked instead of being like man I can't remember if that

was an email or a text message or a phone call everything is tracked.

Yeah that is that is one aspect too like keeping everything centrally located and

makes it easier to find it. Um, we do have the occasional slip up where

we might have to we need an answer right away on something and we have to make a phone call, shoot a text, but we are

learning to to still follow up and do a followup right

in in in our in our hub. Um, did you pop that up what Rin has on there about his

grandson? Yeah, I already did. You you did. So, I'm glad they still make them use

cursive, Ran. That like I don't know. I think cursive was my downfall because as soon as I learned

how to write cursive, I never pick my pen up anymore or my pencil and I I actually can't even read my own writing,

Daniel. So, if it wasn't for typing, computer was your downfall? No.

As soon as soon as you could type in text, man, that was uh that was it. You didn't need

to write it anymore. Um, so the inside the business part like

that's going to translate over to the on the job side too is what Jimmy said. And on the job it's it's that's a person

communication, right? We all have we all have these little computers in our hand.

And if if you have five people on your team and you have two people that are

still asking you what to do for every step of the way when they have all the same information you have

and that's just them not wanting to adopt it and not learn it. Sorry to say.

Um and we I was like that. We still got people like that. Some days are better than others, but um

I guess it is a lot easier just to have someone tell you what to do than for you to do a little bit of reading

uh or just knowing, right? If you've been doing this for a prolonged period of

time and you've been doing it for 10 plus years and then you still have to come and ask me, hey, what's next?

Shouldn't shouldn't be like that. Like we do the same thing every day. It's a different job site. It's a different

material. Same steps every single time. And once you start realizing that, it's

like, yeah, sometimes you get to skip steps, right? Cuz hey, I don't have to do demo today. I don't have to scrape,

but you you still have to pick up from that moment on.

How Rin asked, "How long can I go without using some type of electronics?"

I typically sleep for around eight hours a day. So,

pretty good pretty good amount of time. See, that's electronics around like like

to me that like that's power tools, too. So, you know, like it's hard to do that. If

you can unplug, if you guys can find time to unplug and set work aside and and have that that like

that's a luxury nowadays to me that's a luxury. Before it was a luxury to have

something like this. Now it's a luxury to be able to set it down because we got so much stuff going on, right? Um I know uh Carlos says that some people

just don't take responsibility and we actually say it's accountability. It's like come on guys. And um the the

biggest thing is, you know, like I said, we have our our meetings every Monday. And

that's that's one of the the biggest things. It's like guys, it's not um I

can tell you that you should be learning as much as you can, but you have to actually want to do it.

Yeah. Right. Taking accountability for that. And then um

Jamie says that his son is getting him into the new technology and keeping everything in one place, which is

amazing, man. that like honestly for teamwork like no sure we have our um our

private teams that only like him and I can access or him or like the office

staff and and stuff like that but to have everything out in the open where

everything is being communicated and no one can hide from anything is a huge

step. So, it's like when you when you ask for information,

everyone gets that notification. Or if they're if you just tag the one person,

there's always someone that's looking in there that can go and relay a message

because I mean, the fact of the matter is is when you're on the job site, you're not going to answer 100% of the

time, right? Because that means that you're you're going to be on your phone 100% of the time and that's just not not the

case. Well, and it's and the I don't think any any of the the

programs out there to help with efficiency, whether you're in the office or in the field, is meant for you to be

on your device the whole time, unless that's your specific role um in the

company. I don't think it's meant for you to be on there 100% of the time. It's just so that way you have access to

the information and and contact with everyone as needed or when it's needed.

Um, but it's hard to um it's hard to get some

people to adopt the technology. It's hard to get some people to set it down, right? Like I guess there's a people

rely on on both. It depends on on who you are. If you can find a happy balance

and and and become proficient at operating that system for the one month that it's new

until they add some more stuff that then yeah, more power to you. Especially Microsoft man is crazy. Jamie

says that it's making everything better for all of his guys. They taking pictures um of the progress of the jobs

before and afters all in one place. Keep track of everything. And that's what we

like we're Can you can you share a screen of of something?

Uh possibly, you know, just to kind of like show them. I mean,

yeah. Let me see. I got to switch. I'm on my tablet today, guys. We're actually in the

We're doing some things in another office right now, and I didn't have enough time to uh

to get the computer set up. Yeah. He says it's a lot of work for everyone involved. But that's the thing.

It's that that work that you put into it makes

makes it that much easier in the long run. Now, is it is it Jamie or is it Heidi?

But either way, um so my son does teach me about technology, too. Um, and

actually like it was uh it's very humbling for for you

to have a 13-year-old say, "No, Dad, like this." But I'm not I'm not like

that type of person. If you know, show me. Show me. Like my daughters were

sending emails to one another two years ago. They're nine. That blew my mind.

Now they don't know what to send in the email besides they just talk crap about each other. They were just throwing

snaps on each other. It was It was pretty hilarious. I wish I had the conversation, but you'd have to know my

daughters to understand the humor. So I can I can share this screen so

people can kind of see what we go through with teams.

I'd like to know what everybody else uses, too. Like is there something that that is is easier on a

technological standpoint for people to learn technolog.

So you can see here how you know this is one project right and

it's from the start and we have prints

in here work orders um you can put videos project info and

then we start with you know pictures

and everything is is tracked in here.

like oops

messed up that light with while we're doing the floors.

But this is that's you doing a bunch of

talking and like this is and that's the thing too is the videos like I like we we do like walkthroughs

and I put walkthroughs on there and I point things out uh make it easier and and

it's hard to Oh yeah. And so that's the end of the

day today. Show them that pattern that that my son

came up with.

I haven't even looked at this today. So,

but to to keep everything tracked, looking at everything so that way you can actually know what needs to be done,

what's next, what's what's happening all the time is huge. And that's why like

teamwork is more than just um

talking to each other and and doing the job. A lot of what what we're talking about when we're talking about teamwork,

it it starts with doing stuff like that. That way, everyone is on the same page all the time.

And like Denise says, it definitely helps you cover your butt because we've we've talked about that before too

where, you know, some of these contractors were like they couldn't believe the amount of

pictures and information I had on what was going on because been burned before.

Yep. And that was before we even had teams. We started doing all of that.

But this makes it way easier. And it's the communication thing. Um, you know,

if anybody's out there, I'm curious to hear what you guys do to to um to have a

really good open line of communication whether it's in the office or or in the field or a combination of both. Um, you

know, we're we're not bound to any any contractor have to state any type of uh

program out there, but you know, it's just this is the place to use uh a

platform to use to help your fellow installers so that way they can find some success, too. And Teams isn't going

to be for everyone. Um, so maybe there's something out there a little bit easier to use. Maybe there's

some out there that more complicated that you need to use because of your operation. So Jamie said that he's using uh Floor's

app and connect team

and I've never even I know Floor's app, but I've never heard of Connect Team. So yeah, I'm going to write that down.

And that's the the the thing, right? It's um there's all these different platforms that you can go on and and

figure it out. It's it's not just you have to use something that we're using. Um but there's been times where some of

our employees come to me and they're they're like sending me videos of, "Hey, look at this app right here." And it's like, "Bro, you don't use the app that

we use now. You think I'm going to pay for a new app to use?"

That's actually pretty hilarious. But it's the truth. So, anybody who's an

installer out there working for someone or and they want to try to streamline their process, man.

Well, I mean, just like like uh Paul at Stewart and Associates

uses um Slack and they adopted that early on. So

I know when it's that's the thing is once you get locked into something it's very hard to change out of it because

it's already familiar. You've already got so much information in there and it's like

it's a trust thing, right? Like uh

we're adopting the new CRM after we've already had ours for like four years, right? Almost five years, right? And we

just started getting to a point where it's gotten a lot better. We've gotten a lot better, but

but it can still be better. But the holes the holes were there and

um the CRM is going to fill that void, the

ones that that we were that we're missing. And that's from us. We're still going to use Teams for the communication

aspect, but now we have something that helps us a little bit more uh on the office portion

as well. And hopefully and maybe it's going to be eliminated. I don't know. We'll see what the future has, right? Like all this integration that's they

got going on between everything. There's people a lot smarter than us

working on all that. So that that's that's a cool thing, right? cuz I was looking at Floor Zap 2

and I think it's just more focused on the retail side of things and since we're commercial, it's like we

that's what that's really what I was shooting for is let's uh focus on what we need and not

have and not have to pay for something that's more robust than we need.

Yeah. and uh you're going to make mistakes trying to find something that works for

you. You're going to invest into a program that you might use for a month. You're going to invest

or you might build a a spreadsheet that takes you like two months to build and then everyone uses it for like three

weeks and then it's like, yeah, this ain't this ain't it. Like those those Hey, you know what

though? Like if everybody was like if everybody was on that same page, dude, that checklist was that would have that

would have put us set us apart. But you you need to have people who are willing to adopt technology. Um you know,

nowadays that that's the that's the other part too, right? When you're translating from the office to the field, we do have to

realize that not everyone uses technology every day the same way we do. and that even if you give it to them and

put a computer or an iPad in their hands, it doesn't mean that they're going to actually be like, "Okay, I will

use this now." They'll just set it up and then never touch it again.

Yeah. And you know, um there's a lot of things that that a lot

of people out there use that that we don't that is going to be a foreign language to me, too. Even though that people say that we're technology people,

we're not. I don't think we are. I don't We use it a lot.

Um I think that we use it enough to be

dangerous, but we're not at a point where like that's what we we rely on. Um,

I know that has taken me a really long time right now to get a couple easy things out because I want to try to get that the new CRM set up, but there's a

lot of things that are not that we have to manually put in there in order for

the next 300 quotes to be easy. You know what I mean? So, I'm at

I'm at ground zero. I didn't realize that. I'm like, dude, where's all this stuff you put in there? Oh,

we got to build that library, too. Boom. Okay. Well, not only that, it was undoing, you

know, 15 plus years of things in other softwares, too.

It's all right. It's getting done. So, if any of our clients are out there

listening right now, I'm sorry. I am really trying to catch up. I know Tai's put me behind and I'm I'm doing my

very best right now. And the thing is

something that we shouldn't even, you know, slack on was invoices. And they're over there. They're bothering me

like, "Hey, can you get the invoice out?" And I'm like, "Yeah." And then you go start doing it and it's like, "Man, I got to redo all this stuff." And it's

like, "I'll do it tomorrow." And guess what? Tomorrow turns into the next day. And then the next day when you got so

much stuff going on. Yep. This morning I did kind of lock in

and kind of ignore a lot of the noise in the background as far as everybody talking. I took care of a couple loose ends that were really bothering me.

And if you're anything like me, that's when you use this because this actually

still helps me. I still do that. Still write it all down. Um the the

really important things, right? Because now I can just look at it instead of clicking through a couple different screens.

But so what else we got out there for for the teamwork aspect, Daniel? Like what what

I think like on on the job, right? When we're actually on the job, the teamwork

is hard. Um especially when you get a lot of people and that's that's where it's it's kind of

there's a turning point, right? Because you get people with experience and then when you work with other people with

experience, it goes one of two ways. You're either like really click and then you don't have to say anything. Things

just happen or you're like, "Hey, do it like this." And that other person is like, "Why do I do it like that? This is

how I would do it." It's cool to have a discussion on how

you get how how one will do it versus the other,

but that's where understanding that working

together and learning each other is very important. Um, and that helps with the team dynamic probably more than anybody

would say. um and and being willing

to to not always be a leader um on everyone, right? Like

I'm not going to come on Daniel's job and be like, "Hey, I'm just going to do it like this because I want to. I don't care what you say." No, Daniel's been

doing it. Let's do it your way. If it ain't working out for me, guess what? We'll have another conversation and say, "Hey, this is where I'm struggling at,

right?" Or, hey, look it, I just did this and I changed this right here. It went a little bit quicker. But maybe,

you know, Daniel's Daniel's Daniel's left hand don't work like that. So, you

know, you got to you got to find that happy medium. Jeremy says sometimes he learns what not

to do with other crews on a job site. And I mean, oh,

going all the way back to when he was working with us, right? There was some times where I mean if you guys don't

know Jeremy like this dude will argue with you over every single thing. It

doesn't matter. So it's like I I believe at one point I just looked

at him and I was like just do it the way I told you. That's it. Like I had

enough. Well, and sometimes you you sometimes

you have to be like that. Yeah. And there's other times where he was like, "Hey, but if we just do it like this." And it's like, "You know

what? You're right. Didn't even think about that. Let's do it that way." And it's being open-minded. It's not

it's not just being like, "This is the only way it's going to be done." Right? When I teach classes, that's that's what

I say. Said, "I'm going to show you guys some things. You guys I'm hoping you're going to learn something, right? If

there's anything that you know that I don't, you know, a

better way, let me know because if it's better, I want to adopt it.

You know, then that just reminded me about the, you know, I went and helped um one of the construction companies in

the hospital over at what's it called? Trinity now, but St. ies when they had to

find a radius off of some ceramic tile that and continue it through some existing off of some existing. There was

nowhere to pull a tape measure and I was like, "Yeah, dude. I saw a countertop guy do this like 15 years ago and I took

some some white papers like you know like what do they call you know stuff that comes on the rolls construction

paper I taped it to the floor and I took a piece of chalk and I did the like the

transfer of uh I don't know what it's called know when you younger using like when you do it with a crane.

Yeah. So, I did that on there, rolled up the piece of paper, brought it to the warehouse, unrolled it, took a tape

measure and and found found my radius and gave it to them and

didn't uh didn't charge them anything. I just helped them out. It only took me like an hour there, an hour at the the

office or the warehouse, and helped out someone who couldn't figure it out, but

they were able to get the job done. So, I guess uh it worked out for for them in the long run. They don't call us for

work anymore because there some other people, but it's okay.

I wouldn't say I'm stealing it. I give credit where credit's due, but

Sorry, I'm trying to read some of that stuff, too. So, I mean, it's just harder on the on

the job site and you see so many um installers that work by themselves because of it because they don't

understand the aspect of teamwork and I get it because there is sometimes when

you're working by yourself and um I mean I it's just like dude I can do this all

day long like I don't have to

I don't know babysit someone essentially. You don't have to explain. You don't have to explain every step. That that's I I guess uh sometimes the

having the the mental capacity is overlooked. Being able to um

be consistent on training and explaining and communicating when you're in a great mood, bad mood, when things are going

things are going shitty at home or you know what I mean? like well sometimes

you you just have to take a step back and like it can be overwhelming and I've done this in the past too. It's like

there you you're you're on a job site, right? And there's like five or six guys there with you and what's up

and there's there's only so much to do and they're like what do you want me to

do? What do you want me to do? It's like just hold on, let me. And that's where, you know, I tell um the the leaders,

it's it's about delegating. You have to learn to to delegate and just let them

do things. And then are you going to get mad? Absolutely. You get so angry because it's like,

what are you doing? Well, I'm doing this. Well, I told you to go do this. Why isn't this done? But that's just what what you have to do

in order to keep things running, right? And you you just have to take yourself

out of the equation sometimes and just be like, "All right, if I'm going to try and keep on doing this, there's going to

be three guys over here that have nothing to do. So, let me just have these people do this and then have me go

over here and find something for this guy and just walk around." I mean, some of these job sites, I mean, we were on

for 9 months. So, it was me walking around two or three times a week for a

couple hours just finding where we're going to be going, talking to the GC. Um, because it's when we're talking

teamwork, it's not just in the office or in the field. It's with other companies, right, with other

trades. It's it's a collaborative on every single level that you do.

And sometimes you got to incorporate the designer, the owner, the architect.

You know, it's all a system, right? Everybody's got to find a way to work together and try to make everyone's jobs

as easy as possible. Um u and it it only takes one one wrench to really mess that

up. Uh and but it also only takes one to get it back on track. And um you know

and that might be the the one where Daniel Gor says, "All right, let's stop

group chat. Let's all get together. Hey guys, this is what's going on. This is where we're falling short. Are you

comfortable with this? Are you comfortable with that? All right. So you guys go do that." And then you you know

it's it's the communication part and like you said, delegating, but then

understanding weaknesses and strengths and and and hopefully you're leading to that. That can be on the technology

portion, that could be in the in the field. Um

all around you gota Well, if you look at everything as a learning opportunity, right?

That's what you have to kind of look at things as. So Jeremy says, you know, when it it's hard to deal with people

that are closed-minded, um not willing to try new things. And he wouldn't be

100% used to be like that, Jeremy. Yeah, I know. That's why that's why I gave that look like, bro, bro, come on.

But you know what? Jeremy's getting all grown up and stuff now, right? And it's

Go ahead. That's just what you got to do, man.

It's Denise says, um,

have to keep the ball rolling and you vent after the job. And I actually seen

um someone post a video, I think it was yesterday,

and they said um venting is one of the things that is wrong with us is because

when you vent, you're just pushing it all out there and then once it's off your mind, you're not trying to become

better from it. So, I don't I don't know that I've been to

really anyone. And my wife gets all angry now because she says that I don't talk to her about anything. But it's

like I don't know. It's it's that internal thing where I'm just

trying to learn. All right. Okay. Just all the information. What What am I going to do now to make it better

tomorrow? Uh I I guess it depends on the person.

Venting might help some people, but it doesn't

I guess if you're venting, like say you're uh if if I'm venting to Rand, I'm

venting because I'm asking for advice. That's one way of venting. Well, I think that's asking for advice.

That's not venting. So, right. Well, I'm just saying that's Hey, dude. This is what's going on. We keep hitting this scenarios, right? And then

you kind of go over the the story. Uh, but venting for me doesn't really solve any

solutions. I feel like venting is just sharing information that

is irrelevant to some people. And, you know, when it starts having other people's names and and and things in it,

it's hard. I don't know. I've just never been one to like share. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that

venting is bad, right? But after I I I heard them say that, I'm like, I'm kind

of makes sense, right? Because I'm not just getting it out there and then be like, "All right, glad I got

that off my chest." Right? It's like I need to do something about this. But at the same time, um again, like our mental

health episodes were probably some of the most received ones. So, um we

probably should do another one here soon, but when it comes to that kind of stuff, absolutely talk to someone.

There's some there's some give and take with everything, right? And I know firsthand that Yeah. Sometimes you just

have to put your ego aside. You got to let it all out. Yeah. Um Well,

Jeremy calls me and vents sometimes. Oh, me. Yeah. Same. Um but sometimes venting as far as like getting it off

your chest doesn't mean it's off your plate, right? But I will say that

sometimes and I've experienced like talking through things whether it's lending or

says maybe she should have used a different word. uh talking through things whether you consider it venting or not like we'll

have a conversation in the middle of the conversation Daniel and I be like uh never mind I got it

you have that that that epiphany that aha moment yeah the realization that

I call myself stupid a lot so you know when I'm like so stupid I didn't didn't even think about that

um but that's just me talking to myself well that's That's us anywhere because

you can be doing the most not work stuff. You can be like on vacation just

like at Cedar Point or something waiting in line be like, "Oh, that's what I should be doing with this thing."

That's happened. Yeah. I got my sons doing that now. My

son will ask anything construction like, "Dad, why did they leave it like that?" And then

I'll have to like I don't know, son. Let's look at it. Let's try to figure it out. But speaking

of son, I got to actually go because I got to get over to the school before his next

Yeah, my bad. We're We should have told everyone that we're going to make this one a little bit shorter.

Oh, Mr. Benjamin's on here. I mean Kevin. What's up, Kev? Kevin, what's up, Kev?

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Why would I do that? I think that's supposed to say aha moment comes when I should be sleeping

and I'm installing that job in my head in my head. I do that.

No, there I think everybody does that. But you're working on yourself. Everybody Everybody who cares is doing that.

That that sometimes that's the only time you get alone, right? And it's like that's what you got to do and then get

yelled at by your wife because you're not sleeping yet.

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